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's interesting that the obama administration is not defending the law with the justice department. is that significant? >> it's very significant. it's pretty unusual. it happens once in a while. obama's come out and said, we've looked at this. it's a legal issue that we've looked at and it is an unconstitutional statute so we're not going to defend it. could be a political thing, too. >> what does that mean for gay people if the defense of marriage act is struck down in this country? >> it just means that we're going to have availability of benefits on the federal level. we have them on the state level for those states that have same-sex marriage. but it's not going to make it illegal not to have same-sex marriage. it will be a start in the right direction for full rights for gay people. >> for self-esteem and for -- as gay people say, pride, it would also mean a lot as well? >> it's the first step. and i think it's the right decision. >> thank you, karen. very interesting. argued in front of the supreme court. good stuff. >>> next here on cnn -- >> an nba legend sits down to talk
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